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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://www.joyofsetup.com/2009/05/03/windows-virtual-pc-good-bad-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-7467</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding laptop VT support: many laptops ship with a VT-capable CPU but with VT support disabled via BIOS and with no option to enable it.

However, for some models, it is possible to enable VT with a little BIOS &quot;hacking&quot;. I was able to get it enabled on my three yo. VAIO SZ1 (Intel Core Duo, one of the first VT-capable mobile CPUs)

Instructions can be found here:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding laptop VT support: many laptops ship with a VT-capable CPU but with VT support disabled via BIOS and with no option to enable it.</p>
<p>However, for some models, it is possible to enable VT with a little BIOS &#8220;hacking&#8221;. I was able to get it enabled on my three yo. VAIO SZ1 (Intel Core Duo, one of the first VT-capable mobile CPUs)</p>
<p>Instructions can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/" rel="nofollow">http://forum.notebookreview.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Painter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Painter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to add....  The T6400 seems to be a very common CPU these days and even it won&#039;t cut it.  What about all the netbooks people are buying?

And speaking of the economy.. I&#039;m all for helping out but I don&#039;t think most people will.  I&#039;m afraid people are looking for a Wii, not an XBox 360.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to add&#8230;.  The T6400 seems to be a very common CPU these days and even it won&#8217;t cut it.  What about all the netbooks people are buying?</p>
<p>And speaking of the economy.. I&#8217;m all for helping out but I don&#8217;t think most people will.  I&#8217;m afraid people are looking for a Wii, not an XBox 360.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Painter</title>
		<link>http://www.joyofsetup.com/2009/05/03/windows-virtual-pc-good-bad-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-7449</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Painter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I understand this correctly?  That to use Windows 7 with XP you have to have a 64bit VT chip?

Bad news... my server runs Hyper-V but when I bought my laptop, I found very few models with VT support.     Hopefully this will drive supply/demand but as I&#039;ve observed the laptop market currently ( who buys desktops anymore? )  this is going to be an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I understand this correctly?  That to use Windows 7 with XP you have to have a 64bit VT chip?</p>
<p>Bad news&#8230; my server runs Hyper-V but when I bought my laptop, I found very few models with VT support.     Hopefully this will drive supply/demand but as I&#8217;ve observed the laptop market currently ( who buys desktops anymore? )  this is going to be an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, was anybody thinking the same thing I was. If virtualization was not required and now it is, maybe there&#039;s a way to put it back the way it was? somebody could create a patch to make it work again (even slow w/o vt, but better than nothing)..

dont get me wrong, I agree that what Microsoft has done with XP mode is amazing and this way it&#039;s sure to attract attention and people would start using it massively, for they can now easily use virtualization. 

Before it was clumsy to start a different os inside the one you have and share files through the network and all the hassle around. This way is simple and elegant. Less informed users might not even realize it&#039;s another os they&#039;re running, they may think of it as a finally well working &#039;compatibility mode&#039;.

However. Making it intel VT/ AMD-V cores only is the worst thing they could have done. What&#039;s the point of this? Make people buy more expensive chips?

Personally I&#039;m running e5200 and e7300 - what do I do? I dont wanna upgrade. Those CPUs are good enough. And I am ready to &#039;wait a while&#039; for the virtual pc to finish a task, keeping in mind I dont have a VT. But making it only for those high-end chips, that really sux. 

I am strongly convinced there&#039;s thousand of people like me. Bought a e5x00 or x e7x00, cuz it was a terrific bargain and now they&#039;re being punished for going after perfomance/price ratio??

Help us somebody, pls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, was anybody thinking the same thing I was. If virtualization was not required and now it is, maybe there&#8217;s a way to put it back the way it was? somebody could create a patch to make it work again (even slow w/o vt, but better than nothing)..</p>
<p>dont get me wrong, I agree that what Microsoft has done with XP mode is amazing and this way it&#8217;s sure to attract attention and people would start using it massively, for they can now easily use virtualization. </p>
<p>Before it was clumsy to start a different os inside the one you have and share files through the network and all the hassle around. This way is simple and elegant. Less informed users might not even realize it&#8217;s another os they&#8217;re running, they may think of it as a finally well working &#8216;compatibility mode&#8217;.</p>
<p>However. Making it intel VT/ AMD-V cores only is the worst thing they could have done. What&#8217;s the point of this? Make people buy more expensive chips?</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m running e5200 and e7300 &#8211; what do I do? I dont wanna upgrade. Those CPUs are good enough. And I am ready to &#8216;wait a while&#8217; for the virtual pc to finish a task, keeping in mind I dont have a VT. But making it only for those high-end chips, that really sux. </p>
<p>I am strongly convinced there&#8217;s thousand of people like me. Bought a e5x00 or x e7x00, cuz it was a terrific bargain and now they&#8217;re being punished for going after perfomance/price ratio??</p>
<p>Help us somebody, pls!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Arnson</title>
		<link>http://www.joyofsetup.com/2009/05/03/windows-virtual-pc-good-bad-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-7442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Arnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 11:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The multithreadedness and automatability point to a very different architecture. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The multithreadedness and automatability point to a very different architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Windows Virtual PC really &quot;almost [...] entirely unlike&quot; Virtual PC 2007? Based on your description they sound very similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Windows Virtual PC really &#8220;almost [...] entirely unlike&#8221; Virtual PC 2007? Based on your description they sound very similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Virtual PC: Good, bad, ugly &#171; News : India-Developers.com</title>
		<link>http://www.joyofsetup.com/2009/05/03/windows-virtual-pc-good-bad-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-7439</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Virtual PC: Good, bad, ugly &#171; News : India-Developers.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The rest is here:  Windows Virtual PC: Good, bad, ugly [...]</description>
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